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Post by Roy of the Rovers on Oct 24, 2016 11:59:54 GMT
I'll let Wozza answer but I think a new clip is going on it?. Loving the rear stance Wozza, the new wheels will transform it
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Post by wozzer on Oct 24, 2016 19:11:20 GMT
Great work Wozza, not only the suspension changes but also the care you take in the engineering of your car. Perhaps I've missed something but how are you going to deal with the front suspension? At full drop the car will sit on the bump stops...and even then it's not that low. (The query is in relation to maintaining viable suspension movement for a low and comfortable ride) Many thanks enigmas. As roy says its going to have a new front clip heres a pic of a similar set up
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Post by enigmas on Oct 24, 2016 21:23:31 GMT
That's a really nicely designed front suspension with huge brakes. Do the front air bags incorporate shock absorbers and will you be using a power rack?
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Post by wozzer on Oct 27, 2016 18:07:06 GMT
That's a really nicely designed front suspension with huge brakes. Do the front air bags incorporate shock absorbers and will you be using a power rack? Yes the air bags are basically the same as a coilover but using a bag instead of a spring, and im not going to have a power rack as wayne does not want to narrow a power rack. Instead i am looking into adapting to have a power column but i may try it without first to see how heavy the steering is.
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Post by enigmas on Oct 27, 2016 23:28:27 GMT
It will be heavy with an unassisted steering rack Woz.
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Post by wozzer on Nov 5, 2016 16:53:36 GMT
It will be heavy with an unassisted steering rack Woz. Yes mate you probably right about that . Here are a couple of pics with it sitting about right but may get the front a little lower. Woz.
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Post by enigmas on Nov 5, 2016 20:22:41 GMT
Lookin'good Woz. I'll also be interested in the quality of the ride that the suspension provides.
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Post by Roy of the Rovers on Nov 7, 2016 10:25:02 GMT
Woz is that just with torsion bars chopped at the mo? (on the bumpstops?) Roy
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Post by bissmire on Nov 10, 2016 17:52:20 GMT
Looking good.
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Post by wozzer on Nov 12, 2016 10:20:12 GMT
Woz is that just with torsion bars chopped at the mo? (on the bumpstops?) Roy Yes roy torsion bars removed and sitting on 1" spacers
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Post by wozzer on Nov 12, 2016 10:22:11 GMT
Thanks jamie , i saw a post on facebook that wisbech are doing another 4 bar on a p5 but as yet no more details
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Post by wozzer on Nov 16, 2016 19:09:52 GMT
Got my last piece of the rear end jigsaw today. Ordered these AVO alloy shocks yesterday and they arrived nice and early this morning, great service. All i need to do to fit them is to finish the top mount and to fabricate the lower mount.
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Post by enigmas on Nov 16, 2016 20:34:31 GMT
What are the specifics of the AVO shocks Woz? Do they do something unique?
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Post by wozzer on Nov 16, 2016 22:00:51 GMT
Nothing too trick about these shocks mate. Made of alloy fully rebuildable and single adustable for compression damping they just give me a small amount of fine tuning when the old bus is back on the road. Woz
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Post by Roy of the Rovers on Nov 17, 2016 13:37:10 GMT
I have those on mine
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Post by wozzer on Nov 17, 2016 14:17:16 GMT
I have those on mine Ahh...a man of great taste
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Post by tootle on Nov 24, 2016 0:30:43 GMT
Wozza, I like the bits of your planned upgrades I've read about. I'm a newby to this forum, and a newby to P5s as well (though plenty of P6s - and SD1s before I learned better). You, or others, may be able to answer a few questions. The may have been done to death already, but I haven't made friends with the search on this forum yet. I'm looking at the Ford 9" rear, with discs, and probably 120mm PCD, which is the standard for big Aussie cars. Do you know of any hub upgrades to change the front to 120mm pcd as well? I'd love to look at the four bar as well if it works on your beasty. With your brake upgrades, (I'm not sure if it was you or another that was using the Holden calipers), have you found a twin or four piston caliper, and what discs are you using? Is there any way to increase disc size? I'm looking to do all this prior to changing to 16" superlite wheels or similar, which I'd plan to order in 120mm PCD . My goal is to modernise the beast delicately (and my golden rule is "nothing that can't be reversed") to a modern, functional classic. On the list are the running gear, fuel injection, aircon (we REALLY need it in Queensland - I drove it 1300ks in very early summer, and was literally pouring water over myself to stay alive), four speed tranny, possibly more modern electric seats (though "the boss" likes the originals, so probably not!).
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Post by enigmas on Nov 24, 2016 0:49:25 GMT
I'm not sure if any of the changes on your list meet the definition of subtle Tootle! But it is your car and your vision. Also don't fool yourself that any of the changes are easily reversible unless the next owner has a lot of energy and you've kept all the parts removed. Once again none of this bothers me personally, but do post to the modified section when you start your project to keep more conservative elements appeased. The PBR HG Holden Calipers are on my coupe. NB. As for hub PCDs. You can have your front hubs altered for a different PCD. (Ford Holden whatever.) If you want a contact for someone who's done this and fitted a Ford disc brake rear end in OZ. Contact Michael Petrezyne (I can't spell his surname but it's correct phonetically) of the Rover Car Club in Victoria. His wife Jane is the event organiser.
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Post by tootle on Nov 24, 2016 1:58:50 GMT
Cheers Enigma.
No, delicate, which translates in my world as something that can be reversed by primarily manual labour (amounts irrelevant) without a full machine shop! No body chop, no chassis chop, can refit the original engine and that nasty tranny if they want. And yes, I always keep the parts, much to my wife's annoyance.
The goal is along the lines of "what they'd build now if they were still making them".
Those PBRs are single piston? Are they significantly better? What are the rotors?
When you say "modified", do you mean new holes drilled in the original hub?
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Post by enigmas on Nov 24, 2016 6:20:07 GMT
The caliper is a sliding head type. The discs are Mitsubishi. Yes, they are significantly better. PBR calipers like these were used on Ford, Holden,Valiant and the Leyland P76. These were powered by large capacity V8s and big hemi sixes (as you're probably aware.) My car also has rear disc brakes running MK2 Jaguar caliper assemblies on Mercedes discs.
As for your front hubs...yes they can be modified (drilled between the Rover studs to modify the PCD) to something other...for example a Ford.
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Post by wozzer on Nov 24, 2016 18:48:57 GMT
Hi tootle Thats sounds like a nice project you are embarking on, make sure you start a thread to let us all see how it is going. Enigmas seems like he's answered all your questions better than i may have but any more just fire away. Woz
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Post by Warwick on Nov 26, 2016 22:42:11 GMT
... If you want a contact for someone who's done this and fitted a Ford disc brake rear end in OZ. Contact Michael Petrezyne (I can't spell his surname but it's correct phonetically) of the Rover Car Club in Victoria. His wife Jane is the event organiser. Petryszyn
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Post by wozzer on Dec 3, 2016 16:03:54 GMT
Top shock mounts finally finished this is it just before it being fitted. Now onto the lower mounts.
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Post by wozzer on Dec 17, 2016 17:45:38 GMT
Here are the lower shock mounts from components to being test fitted. Just need to get them finished off and painted. Tested the rear suspension and all seems to work well but will need a road test to make sure.
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Post by wozzer on Dec 27, 2016 18:39:07 GMT
A little sneak preview of what i am hoping the old girl will look like.
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